Hiring Rates
There are several charging options available that can be negotiated on an individual basis which comes down to the options of (to be negotiated with the timber owner):
Note:
Note:
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An allowance for travel if large distances are involved
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An allowance for small jobs
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All costs are exclusive of GST (thus add 10%)
Specific rates on request. Please contact us for further details.
Specific rates on request. Please contact us for further details.
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Hire on an hourly or day rate (Rate A)
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Hire on a “log cube” rate (Rate B)
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Share the wood that is milled
4.
Mixture of the above
HOURLY RATE
BGC charge hourly rates depending on the operation being done:
BGC charge hourly rates depending on the operation being done:
| 1. | For slabbing | |
| a. | Rate A | |
| b. | Or reduced Rate A and miller keeps 1 in 3 of the slabs and the owner keeps 2 in 3 of the slabs |
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| 2. | For dimensional milling | |
| a. | Rate B per “log cube” (see definition below) |
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| b. | Note: At this rate, the cost to the owner is effectively 50% of what the timber would cost from a timber supplier, not allowing for transport cost from the hardware store. Also remember that the size and lengths and quality of timber that can be milled locally at an owners site may not actually be available in today’s market place e.g. walk into Bunnings and try and source 6m long Australian hardwood that is 100mm x 100mm. And if it is available, it will be well over $100 each length. |
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| 3. | For travel and set up time $50/hour (charged on a negotiated basis for small or distant or difficult to access jobs) |
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| a. | When using either a “log cube” or hourly rate, BGC would naturally prefer larger lots of timber to be milled at one time, but is happy to discuss and negotiate with each owner the options for milling small volumes of timber. |
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| 4. | If the owner is willing to supply labour to carry away each piece of milled timber as it is cut off the log, this will speed up the process. If not, then a labourer can be supplied by BGC at $50/hour. Without a labourer the operation will take longer as the milling operator will need to stop after each milled piece of timber is cut, remove the length of timber to a pile, then reposition themselves back ready to mill the next length. In such circumstances, BGC will likely consider only offering an hourly rate not a “log cube” rate. Note: Once underway, a mill operator is likely to be able to cut 100mm x 50mm x 6m lengths of timber, faster than the labourer can physically remove and stack them. |
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LOG CUBE
A log cube is a calculation of the volume of wood in a log that is likely to be viable for milling. This calculation is done by measuring the smallest diameter end of the log to be milled, calculating the surface areas of that end (p r 2 : pi x radius of log x radius of log), and multiplying that by the length of the log (all measurements in metres). This gives a value in cubic metres (m3).
e.g. If a log is 5 metres long and thins from an end of 300 mm radius (600mm diameter) to 250 mm radius (500 mm diameter), then the log cube will be:
1. 5m x p (~3.14) x 0.25 m x 0.25 m - 0.98 m3, thus ~ 1 cubic metre.
Click here for a quick look graph for estimating the log cube (Figure 1)
To calculate the likely average amount of wood to be recovered for eventual use, the log cube is then multiplied by 40% (0.4).
2. 1 m3 x 0.4 = 0.4 m3
Click here for a quick look graph estimating the recoverable timber (Figure 2)
By using the smallest end of the log in the calculation allows for timber loss that occurs as the log thickens from one end to the other. As such the excess taper that is cut off (arc like shaped piece of wood) will be wastage, and not likely to be easily milled. The greater the thickness change along a log, and the less straight is the log, then the lower the recovery rate.
Note: An individual owner may wish to access this offcut, but it makes the operation less efficient and takes additional time to mill; i.e. a good mill operator may reposition the log to mill some of this offcut, and/or potentially access the offcut for slabbing; but it will take additional time and cost to do this. But it will achieve a higher recovery rate of the available timber, and potentially produce some interesting shapes for unique naturally finished table top slabs or long bench seats.
SHARE THE WOOD
Depending on the timber type that is being milled, the location and the amount of timber being milled, often a miller is willing to take a share of the timber instead of direct payment. For a zero cost outcome for an owner, this rate of sharing of timber is normally on a 50/50 basis; such that the owner retains 50% of the milled timber and the mill operator receives the other 50%. Ratios of sharing can also be negotiated with a mixture of payment and timber sharing.
A log cube is a calculation of the volume of wood in a log that is likely to be viable for milling. This calculation is done by measuring the smallest diameter end of the log to be milled, calculating the surface areas of that end (p r 2 : pi x radius of log x radius of log), and multiplying that by the length of the log (all measurements in metres). This gives a value in cubic metres (m3).
e.g. If a log is 5 metres long and thins from an end of 300 mm radius (600mm diameter) to 250 mm radius (500 mm diameter), then the log cube will be:
1. 5m x p (~3.14) x 0.25 m x 0.25 m - 0.98 m3, thus ~ 1 cubic metre.
Click here for a quick look graph for estimating the log cube (Figure 1)
To calculate the likely average amount of wood to be recovered for eventual use, the log cube is then multiplied by 40% (0.4).
2. 1 m3 x 0.4 = 0.4 m3
Click here for a quick look graph estimating the recoverable timber (Figure 2)
By using the smallest end of the log in the calculation allows for timber loss that occurs as the log thickens from one end to the other. As such the excess taper that is cut off (arc like shaped piece of wood) will be wastage, and not likely to be easily milled. The greater the thickness change along a log, and the less straight is the log, then the lower the recovery rate.
Note: An individual owner may wish to access this offcut, but it makes the operation less efficient and takes additional time to mill; i.e. a good mill operator may reposition the log to mill some of this offcut, and/or potentially access the offcut for slabbing; but it will take additional time and cost to do this. But it will achieve a higher recovery rate of the available timber, and potentially produce some interesting shapes for unique naturally finished table top slabs or long bench seats.
SHARE THE WOOD
Depending on the timber type that is being milled, the location and the amount of timber being milled, often a miller is willing to take a share of the timber instead of direct payment. For a zero cost outcome for an owner, this rate of sharing of timber is normally on a 50/50 basis; such that the owner retains 50% of the milled timber and the mill operator receives the other 50%. Ratios of sharing can also be negotiated with a mixture of payment and timber sharing.
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